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Lauren Brollier Newton

Welcome to the abundant coach. I’m your host, Lauren Brollier Newton. This is a weekly podcast about creating full spectrum success with a thriving coaching business, while making a profound difference in the world. Each week, you’ll discover insights, strategies, and inspiration to help you attract your ideal clients. Facilitate real transformation in their lives, and grow your coaching business while living your purpose with true freedom and fulfillment.

 

00;00;32;06 – 00;01;00;24

Lauren Brollier Newton

Well, welcome back to the Abundant Coach and oh my gosh, do we have a good one today? Because I have the privilege of introducing, and interviewing Doctor Shannon South, known as the Joy doctor. She is the source for people who are ready to experience more joy and more empowerment in their lives. She is an award winning, transpersonal therapist, a bestselling author of three books, an inspirational speaker, and an expert in the field of mind body, spirit healing and has been healing trauma for over 20 years.

 

00;01;00;27 – 00;01;18;26

Lauren Brollier Newton

One of the things Doctor Shannon is known for is her inner counselor process that you are actually going to get a chance to experience today, and I have chills just thinking about it. It’s going to be so, so without saying much more, because we’re going to get into it in this interview, it’s my pleasure to introduce Doctor Shannon South.

 

00;01;18;28 – 00;01;24;26

Dr Shannon South

Oh, yay! Thank you so much. I’m so honored to be here. I’m really thrilled to talk about all of this.

 

00;01;24;29 – 00;01;49;05

Lauren Brollier Newton

I am so thrilled to have you here. So I know that you got your start in this. You were doing traditional therapy. You were in school, you were doing counseling. You were working in a more traditional therapy setting. Yes. And then during this time period in your life, you had a transformative experience. So I would just love to hear more about what that meant for you personally, what it was, what happened, and also how it changed the way you see your clients and patients.

 

00;01;49;07 – 00;02;15;00

Dr Shannon South

Absolutely. Well, you hear about the quantum flip. It really did change everything for me. When I had that personal healing, I had years of having anxiety attacks and panic disorder to where I could not sleep well. I was unable to drive. I was just really panicky in the car. My digestion was terrible. And I, you know, I’d done a lot of traditional things to help, and they’d help to a point for sure medications, therapy, all this kind of stuff.

 

00;02;15;02 – 00;02;35;07

Dr Shannon South

So I’m sitting here not enjoying the side effects of medications. There was just a lot of downsides to that whole modality. But there were upsides, right. So, I decided to learn meditation, and I got to this lady’s office and she said, I’m going to teach you meditation. Here’s a candle. Stare at it. I’ll be back. I’m like, you got to be kidding me.

 

00;02;35;07 – 00;02;51;28

Dr Shannon South

A candle. Stare at a candle. That’s what I’m getting here. I’m paying you for this. And she’s like, you’re that candle. I’ll be back. Long story short, she came back and she said, how did it go? I said, I have no idea. I’ve never stared at a frickin candle. And so she said, do this in the morning, in the evening.

 

00;02;51;28 – 00;03;11;02

Dr Shannon South

And you’ll be better. And I was like, this lady is a hoax. I’m out of here. I gave her my money and went home. Well, when I got home, I started religiously doing it. I wanted to get better that bad. So I started focusing on this candle and I did it morning and night, morning and night. But one day I decided I’m going to wean myself off my medicine because I didn’t like the side effects.

 

00;03;11;02 – 00;03;31;05

Dr Shannon South

There was a lot of physiological side effects, and I really couldn’t feel that pure joy of being alive. It was a very flattening experience of meditation. You know, it takes off the edges, but it takes off the edges right on all sides. So anyway, here I am into this candle, and all of a sudden the panic symptoms returned.

 

00;03;31;05 – 00;03;57;26

Dr Shannon South

There’s like tightness in the chest. There’s like the elephant’s on your heart. There’s just this intensity about panic. If anyone of you have ever experienced it. And I thought, no. And I screamed out, I said, I cannot do this any more. Help me, help me. Like, please help me. And all of a sudden this energetic experience kind of came over my head, into my heart, into my body.

 

00;03;57;28 – 00;04;22;10

Dr Shannon South

And this peace and love and joy just kind of filled up the cells of my body. And I said, what in the world? You know, I’d grown up Christian. I didn’t have quite a context for this. And I said, oh my goodness. And I knew at that moment that I was well, and I did, and I did not have a panic attack after that.

 

00;04;22;12 – 00;04;42;05

Dr Shannon South

So then I thought, what happened to me? I was able to get off my medicine. I felt a new sense of restores and wholeness in me, and I knew there was something bigger than me going on here. There was something larger in the context of what I was not learning in school that was happening here, the energetics of it all.

 

00;04;42;07 – 00;05;04;29

Dr Shannon South

So I ended up later, after I got my master’s in counseling and worked in the addiction field for a long time, I went on I got my doctorate in spiritual psychology, and that’s where I learned about what happened. Right? I found out it was a peak experience, which many people have right around this, knowing that you’re something bigger than you are and you’re bigger than your fear and you’re bigger than these patterns.

 

00;05;04;29 – 00;05;28;24

Dr Shannon South

And you are you a part of the universe, and that it’s there for you, that you are in this abundant universe. And there is there is always a give and a take and a help there for you. And so, boy, it really changed the landscape of my work with clients. And then I ended up learning the entire counselor process, which really dovetailed on all of this healing.

 

00;05;28;24 – 00;05;40;18

Dr Shannon South

And I ended up working with people in a very new way after that, because we had to use the whole person, right? We couldn’t just heal with the mind and the body alone. There’s the spirit, the spirit of ourselves.

 

00;05;40;21 – 00;05;42;29

Lauren Brollier Newton

I’ve written down like ten different questions, so.

 

00;05;42;29 – 00;05;43;29

Dr Shannon South

Oh, right.

 

00;05;44;01 – 00;06;02;07

Lauren Brollier Newton

So when you think back to that, you’re referring to as a peak experience that you had where you just felt this complete. My words now, not yours, but like this complete healing and you just knew it was going to be different. Do you think that something occurred with the candle, like do you believe because you opened your heart to is it just spiritual intervention?

 

00;06;02;07 – 00;06;06;14

Lauren Brollier Newton

Like, what do you actually think caused that experience for you?

 

00;06;06;16 – 00;06;27;05

Dr Shannon South

Yeah, no, that’s a really great question. My husband’s a traditional psychologist and he’s like, you need to explain this. And more facts, you know, like understood. You know, he wants to know the fact that I’m not the energy, I’m into energy. You know, I think energy doesn’t lie. And so, yeah, energy is very powerful. And there’s you know, we all have a spirit of energy within us that flows through us.

 

00;06;27;07 – 00;06;57;26

Dr Shannon South

But back to your question. So I believe what happened and I believe in the masculine and the feminine energies in all of us. And so I believe that my determination, I’ve always been a very determined person to like, find the answers. But that determination paid off on top of a sense of feminine grace. Like this love and grace that came in in the opening of my system when I could get out of my own way, right, and actually receive the abundance of the universe.

 

00;06;58;00 – 00;07;28;08

Dr Shannon South

We’re so hard boiled into our patterning and our conditioning and our survival patterns. And somehow, in that moment, because of what the work I’ve done and the and the spiritual grace that I received, it all came together. And, and and the good news is I get to see this week after week with these processes, I use that there is this inner knower and healer that’s there for us all, and that’s what’s so cool about it.

 

00;07;28;08 – 00;07;33;16

Dr Shannon South

And we can get to it quickly. It doesn’t have to take years like mine. It doesn’t have to take that long.

 

00;07;33;19 – 00;07;46;26

Lauren Brollier Newton

I think this is so important, and I love that you talked about the determination, because I think there’s a difference between determination versus like a woe is me. So like I got to thinking. So when I had I also had debilitating anxiety.

 

00;07;46;26 – 00;07;49;00

Dr Shannon South

No way. Yeah. Well very.

 

00;07;49;00 – 00;08;14;05

Lauren Brollier Newton

Much so. And I know what you mean by the panic feeling and all this. And when I went to therapy, my therapist would often mention she’s like, you’re so, willing to change and you’re so willing to, do what I’m telling you to do. And I was going to cognitive behavioral therapy, and I think that as, as, like, depressing as it was.

 

00;08;14;05 – 00;08;31;29

Lauren Brollier Newton

And as hard as it was, I was out of the why is this happening to me and into the I’ll do I’m willing to do anything to fix this. Yeah. And I there’s an opening there that’s different than just being and I and I really don’t like to use this because it can it can feel it can almost feel hurtful when you’re the one going through it.

 

00;08;31;29 – 00;08;50;16

Lauren Brollier Newton

But I didn’t just fit in the victim or the to me, I really was like, I’m willing to do anything to fix it. And that’s when things opened up for me. So when I hear you talking about this determination in combination with this open system, it makes perfect sense to me that there has to be a spiritual willingness and a human willingness.

 

00;08;50;18 – 00;08;51;01

Dr Shannon South

Yes.

 

00;08;51;01 – 00;08;53;06

Lauren Brollier Newton

In order for something to change.

 

00;08;53;09 – 00;09;06;17

Dr Shannon South

Absolutely. We have to surrender our personal agenda, to, to a higher order and co-create with it. Right? Yeah. And we have a big piece of that. We have a big piece on that.

 

00;09;06;18 – 00;09;28;08

Lauren Brollier Newton

We do, we do. Okay, so I have another question for you that comes to this. So I would like to hear more about the peak experience. So when you got your doctorate in spiritual psychology and you peak experiences, is it is it mostly true that once you have the peak experience, you never go back? Or do you experience people having a peak experience and then defaulting to the pattern of the familiar?

 

00;09;28;10 – 00;09;55;01

Dr Shannon South

Yes. So I believe that in a peak experience it changes you forever. And, you know, studies do show that if you continue to get back in traumatic and abusive situations over and over and over again, you can wear yourself down and forget, but it doesn’t mean you’ve lost it. And I really don’t think it goes anywhere. I think our aware awareness goes somewhere else, sure, but our presence with it is something that has to be cultivated.

 

00;09;55;04 – 00;10;25;01

Dr Shannon South

We can’t just say, oh, I’ve had this peak experience and like, I’m good to go. You know, I don’t ever have to do any personal awareness work anymore. Bottom line is it’s a cultivation on the daily. And, you know, with me being an anxious personality as a child, that I was so afraid to go back to what that was like, that, you know, the fear and the joy of the experience and the and the the incredible ness of it motivated me, you know, on every level to continue to cultivate.

 

00;10;25;04 – 00;10;47;10

Dr Shannon South

And then I had more energy to cultivate it after. I wasn’t just battling the panic constantly right. So, yeah, sometimes cultivating feels really hard. You’re like hoeing and you’re like tending and you’re like in the deep mud of it. And then sometimes cultivating is very easy and fun and gentle and expansive and amazing. And so, yeah.

 

00;10;47;13 – 00;10;54;10

Lauren Brollier Newton

I like the idea of cultivating the experience that it’s like it’s not just a one time deal that we can continue to cultivate and harvest.

 

00;10;54;12 – 00;10;55;09

Dr Shannon South

Yeah.

 

00;10;55;11 – 00;10;56;06

Lauren Brollier Newton

Experiences.

 

00;10;56;06 – 00;10;57;11

Dr Shannon South

So yes.

 

00;10;57;11 – 00;11;20;25

Lauren Brollier Newton

We have many coaches listening to this podcast who are certified here at Brave Thinking Institute. They’re certified Life coaches. We have coaches from all different modalities and all different institutions. And then we have people who are not yet coaches. And in all those populations, one of the questions that often comes up is, how do I know when it’s, you know, the right thing for me to serve a client?

 

00;11;20;25 – 00;11;31;12

Lauren Brollier Newton

And how do I know when to refer them to a more traditional, mode of therapy? So do you have thoughts on how do we strike the balance between knowing when to serve and knowing when to refer?

 

00;11;31;15 – 00;12;01;05

Dr Shannon South

Yes, that is a wonderful question. So that’s why I love teaching coaches the inner counselor process, because it gives them a tool to work with deep trauma if that arises. And you don’t have to go to school to get your degree in spiritual psychology, you can literally learn how to work with that deeper shadow aspect of a person that’s keeping them stuck, so they really feel like they are not able to move forward with the things that they’re focusing on in their intentions and their positive thoughts, and they’re stuck in something and it opens up the energy.

 

00;12;01;05 – 00;12;22;14

Dr Shannon South

It’s almost like I was on a Jack Canfield podcast and he and I were talking about this, that the it’s like a it’s like an eddy, there’s an eddy and you’re like, you’re stuck in it, right? And you’re in this water. And when you have that energetic breakthrough, when you really connect to that inner healer and the spirit within that the energetic shift, you become lighter, you become softer, you become more open.

 

00;12;22;16 – 00;12;50;19

Dr Shannon South

And so what will stand in the way of that will be one not having the training needed, but two also active addiction. Active addiction is a very vicious beast. You know, it really does get in there and hijack the mind. And so it makes it hard to find openings of willingness when you’re hijacking the daily or the evening with this certain substance or pattern or whatever, and depending on how heavy that is.

 

00;12;50;19 – 00;13;18;08

Dr Shannon South

But we can heal that. We can heal a compulsive behavior, we can heal active addiction. And that’s the good news. But if it’s so severe that people can’t focus because their brain is hijacked. And that’s one way we need to refer right to addiction treatment. Yeah. And then number two, if someone’s like literally so mentally ill is the phrenic or in a way of they have such severe, I think medications can cause things to be worse.

 

00;13;18;08 – 00;13;39;23

Dr Shannon South

So you can’t focus. Right? So sometimes people get on stimulants or certain ways of that. Their brain is hijacked again and in a way that they can’t really do some deeper healing. But again, I believe it’s really being trained on how to shift the nervous system, out of fight, flight, freeze and fawn and and to rest and digest and connecting with the highest nature within the person.

 

00;13;39;29 – 00;13;47;19

Dr Shannon South

Once you have the tools and skills to do that, you can work with 95% of what walks in that door and really make progress.

 

00;13;47;21 – 00;13;52;23

Lauren Brollier Newton

I so agree, knowing how to properly help someone calm their nervous.

 

00;13;52;23 – 00;13;53;25

Dr Shannon South

System yes.

 

00;13;53;27 – 00;13;57;02

Lauren Brollier Newton

Is. I probably have it in every session I have with a client.

 

00;13;57;08 – 00;13;57;24

Dr Shannon South

Like yeah.

 

00;13;57;24 – 00;14;11;19

Lauren Brollier Newton

Because it’s not just it’s and it’s very important for all of us to point out that all of us have a nervous system. And it isn’t just our clients who might be struggling with addiction anxiety. Right? Those different things, like just being a person driving in traffic.

 

00;14;11;22 – 00;14;14;18

Dr Shannon South

Right? Purposes. Right?

 

00;14;14;20 – 00;14;23;18

Lauren Brollier Newton

Right. So tell me this. So I just heard you say fight, flight, freeze or fun and I’ve never heard fun. So tell me what that fun is.

 

00;14;23;18 – 00;14;47;07

Dr Shannon South

When the system has had so much overload that the person is literally what they call dorsal vagal shut down to where they, they they they’re so overly loaded that they’re just like, I can’t, I can’t, they’re stuck and I can’t and they’re nervous. System is stuck and I can’t. So no matter the affirmations, the tending to their thoughts, the tending to their emotions that they do that they just I can’t.

 

00;14;47;09 – 00;15;07;13

Dr Shannon South

And that’s when we need every tool in the box to help rise them up and out of that, because we need, you know, the whole self model. We need the energetic system and their spiritual system to help them. That’s why in the inner Counselor, we call in supporters, we call and supporters meaning it can be relatives that have passed on.

 

00;15;07;13 – 00;15;35;14

Dr Shannon South

It can be their higher self, it can be their spiritual path. God or the God of their understanding. We call that indirectly to help them because they are in trouble and their system is trying to survive. But in order to rise up and out of dorsal vagal shut down, it takes all those levels the energetic, the emotional and the mental layer of the person and their own determination and choice to come in and all that come together for a break through.

 

00;15;35;16 – 00;15;56;22

Dr Shannon South

Yeah. And we have them and it’s beautiful. But yeah, it is a one guy I remember came in and he was in such sere. He was the smartest guy I’ve ever met. Like mentally he had every mental, box checked of smartness. Right. But you know, that won’t save you when you’re in dorsal like sunlight, so doesn’t matter how smart you are.

 

00;15;56;27 – 00;16;15;07

Dr Shannon South

And so anyway, it took me three sessions to get him through to the breakthrough. He ended up having such a breakthrough that when he got past that mental and emotional block and out of that Eddie, he went into the grocery store after our session and he said, all I could feel was connection is love with everyone around me.

 

00;16;15;09 – 00;16;33;21

Dr Shannon South

I just the love. It just got him out of his head, into his heart. And the love took over, and it was in the cells of his body and he could access it, and it lifted his depression. So it was like cheating again. That determination, we stop to it, we use the tools and it works well.

 

00;16;33;21 – 00;16;39;26

Lauren Brollier Newton

And when you think about it, relatively speaking, I mean, three sessions is a very short amount of time for that eight room.

 

00;16;39;28 – 00;16;40;12

Dr Shannon South

Right?

 

00;16;40;17 – 00;16;56;02

Lauren Brollier Newton

Yes. So I want to shift to talking about the inner counselor process and opportunity to experience that in a moment. But I’d like to talk about how you discovered it. And, just give us a general sense of what it is.

 

00;16;56;05 – 00;17;17;03

Dr Shannon South

Absolutely. So I went into my doctorate program to understand how to help my clients better than just cognitive therapy and, you know, love I love the traditional stuff, and it really is helpful. However, I wanted to learn more about the spiritual, how to bring that in, because we know that the yogis and the spiritual people and the monks and the nuns, they’ve been having healings for years.

 

00;17;17;03 – 00;17;45;00

Dr Shannon South

Right? And like, how is that happening? So if you really pair the best of the spiritual healing with the best of psychology, you know, young and the shadow work and all this incredible work that we have, and you put it together and have a baby, that’s the inner counselor process, right? It’s like it’s a pairing of the spiritual and the traditional counseling to really access every part of the person, and that’s what makes it so powerful.

 

00;17;45;02 – 00;18;11;16

Dr Shannon South

So when I got to in my doctorate program, Doctor and Nunley, she she was an artist and she was, spiritual psychology person. She spent her whole life putting this process together. Yeah. She watched this psychologist do a tracking method. She was doing, energy work with music therapy and art therapy, and then she was putting all this together, and she created this process, and she started studying it.

 

00;18;11;18 – 00;18;29;00

Dr Shannon South

And what she found, you know, she tweaked it and found that it worked. And she kept using it and putting it together. So then when she, aged out and was not going to teach anymore, and I’d followed her around for years, she said to me, Will you take my course over? Will you take this over? And I was already teaching it and training people in it.

 

00;18;29;07 – 00;18;52;25

Dr Shannon South

And I just burst into tears. Right. Because I it was such an honor to be able. I mean, the work felt so organic and real and felt like exactly what my heart calling was. And I said, of course, of course. And so ever since that, when I became the primary teacher at the university, then I just became I just it just continued to snowball and I began teaching it.

 

00;18;52;27 – 00;19;15;13

Dr Shannon South

So yeah, it’s the best of the best because it uses somatic work, like in the body, like we know the cells of the body hold our emotions. It uses emotions, you know, and used to say, my teacher would say our greatest act of creativity is recreating ourselves again and again. And so I love that because it uses again the somatic, it uses the emotions, the emotions are gas to the car.

 

00;19;15;13 – 00;19;37;13

Dr Shannon South

They move us forward through the dirt, up into the blooms. Right. A lot. And then it uses the mental and it uses the energy body, the spiritual aspects of the person. And it uses things beyond our understanding. We call in support, beyond our understanding and that grace. And so when you put all that together, it really does create a power packed sandwich of healing.

 

00;19;37;15 – 00;20;04;11

Lauren Brollier Newton

I love that. Well, let me share my own personal experience with the inner oh, please. So you took me through it when I was pregnant with my son, and when you first and everybody’s going to get a chance to hear how this works in a moment when Doctor Shannon takes us through it. But in for me. So she offered to take me through it, and I was pregnant with my son, and, she asked what I something like and this is me paraphrasing, she asked me something like what is it that’s coming up for you that you’d love to work on today?

 

00;20;04;11 – 00;20;15;20

Lauren Brollier Newton

And even though there were a couple different things that came up, one of the things that I was, wanting to work on is I had even though I was further along in my pregnancy, I had all this fear because I had had a miscarriage. And so I know.

 

00;20;15;21 – 00;20;16;09

Dr Shannon South

All this.

 

00;20;16;09 – 00;20;35;13

Lauren Brollier Newton

Fear that I was going to lose the pregnancy and something like that. So when during the process, it came to a point where it’s like, what does, you know, the shadow or whatever it is, I’m not using the right verbs, but like terms, but it’s like, what does it say to you? And the thing that came up for me is it tells me I’m stupid for thinking that it’s all going to work out for me.

 

00;20;35;16 – 00;20;36;08

Dr Shannon South

 

00;20;36;10 – 00;21;02;13

Lauren Brollier Newton

And I didn’t realize how tender that was, because I remember this memory of having the miscarriage and then feeling like an idiot for thinking life was going to work out for me. And it was just this very, you know, sad, shaming kind of a process. So during the process when you had this call and the supporters and all the other things that we did, one of the things that came up to me was your the sentence that came to me.

 

00;21;02;13 – 00;21;06;03

Lauren Brollier Newton

It’s very funny because I believe that spirit speaks to us in a way that we understand.

 

00;21;06;05 – 00;21;10;20

Dr Shannon South

Yes, absolutely. It’s individual for each one of you.

 

00;21;10;23 – 00;21;31;10

Lauren Brollier Newton

This may not sound inspiring when I say the word. It was like what I needed to hear and it was Lauren. It’s not stupid to love. It’s not stupid to love. And what I realized is that all the sadness I had and the shame that I had, it was actually just because I loved that baby. I lost so much.

 

00;21;31;13 – 00;21;52;12

Lauren Brollier Newton

And so it was a beautiful experience. The inner counselor, because not only was I able to really feel what I needed to feel about my first pregnancy, but I was able to every time, from that moment on, a fear came up with the pregnancy that I had when my before my son was born, I, really was able to say, this is all about love.

 

00;21;52;13 – 00;21;59;09

Lauren Brollier Newton

If you’re feeling this year, what it really is, is it’s just all about love. It’s just you love so much, Lauren. And that is a good thing and it’s not stupid.

 

00;21;59;12 – 00;22;01;02

Dr Shannon South

Oh my gosh, that.

 

00;22;01;02 – 00;22;02;14

Lauren Brollier Newton

Was my experience of the inner cancer.

 

00;22;02;14 – 00;22;03;13

Dr Shannon South

Problem.

 

00;22;03;15 – 00;22;07;26

Lauren Brollier Newton

So beautiful. So life changing. So, exquisite.

 

00;22;07;28 – 00;22;28;22

Dr Shannon South

I’m so happy to hear that. I remember that very well. And the powerful insights that came out of you and the connection that you made to your inner counselor. And I’m so happy that continued to be helpful. That’s awesome, because it does have that shift right into our higher energy. And our higher nature is love. You know, I love to say, it’s our relationship to what is not what is.

 

00;22;28;22 – 00;22;55;21

Dr Shannon South

That’s the problem and the solution. So it’s like how we’re relating to something is, is our point of power. So when we shift over to that new relationship, like you did with loving fully the shame and the fear and seeing that in the context of love that lightens your whole spirit. Yes. And that allows you to be in full permission of love for your life exactly as it is.

 

00;22;55;23 – 00;23;03;09

Dr Shannon South

And what a gift. And then what an empowering place to be, right? You can move forward with that without the shame and the fear running the show.

 

00;23;03;12 – 00;23;04;00

Lauren Brollier Newton

Exactly.

 

00;23;04;03 – 00;23;05;12

Dr Shannon South

Anymore.

 

00;23;05;15 – 00;23;27;04

Lauren Brollier Newton

And it’s beautiful because as you mentioned, when you you hear from the parts that the spiritual parts, the supporters or you mentioned when you were talking about your teacher, the things that we don’t understand, when you allow that part to, step forward, you always hear it in the perfect way, in the way that you understand, in the message that’s meant for you.

 

00;23;27;07 – 00;23;38;22

Lauren Brollier Newton

And, a great part of the work we do here at the Institute, which matches perfectly with the inner counselor process, is really opening yourself and learning how to hear from that voice.

 

00;23;38;24 – 00;23;39;15

Dr Shannon South

 

00;23;39;17 – 00;23;43;06

Lauren Brollier Newton

The tools that you can use to hear from that part of yourself.

 

00;23;43;12 – 00;23;44;17

Dr Shannon South

Yes.

 

00;23;44;19 – 00;23;56;04

Lauren Brollier Newton

I’ve heard, you know, over the years before I like really understood how it works is I would hear connect to your spirit, connect to your higher self, meditate. And I’d be like, how the hell do you do that?

 

00;23;56;07 – 00;23;59;21

Dr Shannon South

Right? Like, like me and the candle, I’m like, this is what the heck is right?

 

00;23;59;21 – 00;24;17;16

Lauren Brollier Newton

Yeah. What am I doing? Like, what do you guys mean by this? So when when we come across something like the inner counselor process in the work that you do, it’s so refreshing because it actually gives us a very straightforward tool to support us in knowing how to do the thing that you hear people say.

 

00;24;17;18 – 00;24;37;21

Dr Shannon South

It gets the static out of the way. But not only that, it requires a new pattern that you have access to. Then after that, which I love because we need more resources, you know, you know that Maslow, Abraham Maslow, the psychologist, used to talk about self-actualization as like us being our highest, best self, our fullest potential self, right?

 

00;24;37;23 – 00;25;02;24

Dr Shannon South

And, our consciousness matters and how we how we feel into that because the other shadow stuff is there to help us heal. It’s the opportunity. Yes. Right. That fear and the miscarriage was the opportunity for you to have a life that you have now. Yeah. And to deeply, deeply get it and understand it and love it. And and it’s hard to say that when you’re in it because you’re in it.

 

00;25;02;29 – 00;25;22;13

Dr Shannon South

Right? And it’s like, oh my gosh, are you kidding me? Shut up. You know the opportunity this this feels bad. This hurts. Just like me, with me, with the meditation candle. You know, this is stupid. This thing I’ve ever heard, you know, and then I did it anyway. So some part of me knew that I needed to stay willing regardless.

 

00;25;22;13 – 00;25;44;17

Dr Shannon South

And, you know, that’s what’s so interesting. And, if you’re a coach or counselor that needs to be in control of your session and know what’s going to happen, this product is not for you, right? Because you don’t know what spirit’s going to do with this. You don’t know. But what I do know is that the formula works most of the time, 99.9% of the time, right?

 

00;25;44;19 – 00;25;58;24

Dr Shannon South

So if you go in knowing with your inner knower and you meet the other person’s inner knower, and you have a formula to get them there it is. It builds your confidence. Build my confidence in spirit.

 

00;25;58;26 – 00;26;00;11

Lauren Brollier Newton

Yes. Oh so true.

 

00;26;00;12 – 00;26;24;16

Dr Shannon South

Here it provides spirit, provides every time the knowing, the answers, the energetics needed, the understanding. It’s almost like this incredible mosaic that comes together and people are shocked. Yeah, they’re kind of like what? I didn’t know that was connected to that. That’s weird. And but the way that it I mean, I couldn’t organize this if I tried, I really couldn’t.

 

00;26;24;18 – 00;26;25;18

Dr Shannon South

None of us could.

 

00;26;25;20 – 00;26;41;09

Lauren Brollier Newton

Yeah. No, none of us could price preach it in his book Use Squared. And I particularly appreciate this because he does business acquisition. So you think that’s about most of the left brain thing. You could do. And he says if you have a plan, something’s wrong.

 

00;26;41;11 – 00;26;41;28

Dr Shannon South

We agree.

 

00;26;41;28 – 00;26;52;10

Lauren Brollier Newton

With that. It’s like, yes. And you know, that’s what’s hard for a lot of our coaches in the beginning is, they feel like they have to have all the answers for their client.

 

00;26;52;16 – 00;26;53;15

Dr Shannon South

Right?

 

00;26;53;17 – 00;27;04;15

Lauren Brollier Newton

And maybe in some directive coaching modalities, that’s the case if you’re, you know, doing something more directive. But I love how you just said you couldn’t make it up the way it’s supposed to go.

 

00;27;04;18 – 00;27;06;02

Dr Shannon South

There’s no way.

 

00;27;06;05 – 00;27;11;17

Lauren Brollier Newton

And when you have a modality that supports you in doing it, it’s a lot easier to to trust.

 

00;27;11;19 – 00;27;12;01

Dr Shannon South

Yeah, the.

 

00;27;12;01 – 00;27;17;26

Lauren Brollier Newton

Perfect and right thing is going to come up. I can’t have all the answers for everybody. I, I can’t know what’s right for somebody.

 

00;27;17;26 – 00;27;56;17

Dr Shannon South

Absolutely not. No I’m always surprised. And sometimes I get a gut feeling like, oh, this is where we need to go. But spirit has its own agenda and it will take the client where they need to go. And I help guide them and keep them in the guardrails, right, to hold the container for it. But it is really, really stunning and beautiful and heart filling to see the energetics of it all and to see to see the release and the up up draft and used to call them up drafts, the updraft that it creates in someone’s consciousness, and then the continued up drafts that continue after that, you know, in meditation and when we’re cultivating

 

00;27;56;17 – 00;28;15;08

Dr Shannon South

it, it just puts you on a new plane of possibility. That’s what many of my trainees say. They’re like, I just feel like I’m on a different plane of possibility that was not there before. I love that. And then, yeah, lines up our energy with a new plane of possibility that was not accessible to us before, which is really important.

 

00;28;15;11 – 00;28;20;23

Lauren Brollier Newton

That’s a perfect way to put it. So tell me how you what would love to do this? So you’re going to take us through the process?

 

00;28;20;23 – 00;28;21;06

Dr Shannon South

Yes.

 

00;28;21;11 – 00;28;23;27

Lauren Brollier Newton

Would you like us to close our eyes as an audience like that.

 

00;28;23;27 – 00;28;24;12

Dr Shannon South

Would.

 

00;28;24;15 – 00;28;25;26

Lauren Brollier Newton

In order to facilitate this?

 

00;28;25;26 – 00;28;59;22

Dr Shannon South

Yes. So I would love for people to get in a place where they can close their eyes and have at least 15 to 20 minutes of really allowing themselves to go within, because having an external focus of control keeps more anxiety and depression going. And so I really want you, if you’re going to go through this, to be able to focus and be have an internal focus of control, and also be in a place where you can let go to your internal process, because it will it will take you somewhere very beautiful in this container.

 

00;28;59;25 – 00;29;08;26

Dr Shannon South

So that’s where I and I, and I say that it might be uncomfortable at moments and that’s okay to that’s okay for you too. We’ve got we’ve got you.

 

00;29;08;28 – 00;29;22;29

Lauren Brollier Newton

I think going to do this time is I’m going to I’m going to mute myself. So I don’t interrupt anything with my thumbs and my O’s. And, and I’m going to take notes as we go this time. And I’m going to turn it over to you. And, I’m just so thrilled for our audience to get to experience this.

 

00;29;23;02 – 00;29;33;00

Dr Shannon South

Yeah, I’m really happy that we’re doing this. So let’s allow everyone to go ahead and close your eyes.

 

00;29;33;02 – 00;29;42;08

Dr Shannon South

Taking some long, deep breaths. Just allowing your system to settle.

 

00;29;42;10 – 00;29;54;03

Dr Shannon South

Just dropping within.

 

00;29;54;05 – 00;30;13;08

Dr Shannon South

And then I’d like you to find a peaceful place inside. This may be a place you’ve been to before. Or it may be a place that you’re making up right now.

 

00;30;13;11 – 00;30;25;04

Dr Shannon South

And just notice any sights, smells, sounds, context and how you feel in this peaceful place.

 

00;30;25;07 – 00;30;36;01

Dr Shannon South

Just letting go.

 

00;30;36;04 – 00;30;54;23

Dr Shannon South

And if finding a peaceful place is challenging, just imagining what that would feel like. Or the last time you felt that way. Just imagining that peaceful place is there for you.

 

00;30;54;26 – 00;30;59;01

Dr Shannon South

And play with it.

 

00;30;59;03 – 00;31;14;10

Dr Shannon South

And while you’re in this peaceful place, inviting in your highest nature, your divinity, whatever that means to you.

 

00;31;14;12 – 00;31;36;17

Dr Shannon South

To be your guide on this journey, inviting it in the very consciously. And you may feel sense. See something or you just may have a knowing in your heart.

 

00;31;36;19 – 00;31;52;16

Dr Shannon South

And thinking your higher self being there for you. Your spiritual self.

 

00;31;52;19 – 00;32;29;23

Dr Shannon South

And as we go into this process, just noticing if there’s an issue you would like to shift in your life, something that feels like it’s standing in your way, or that you’d like to change or trigger an intense feeling or pattern, just notice the issue that you would like to focus on. And there may be several, but just pick one.

 

00;32;29;25 – 00;32;38;13

Dr Shannon South

And just noticing this issue in your life.

 

00;32;38;15 – 00;33;11;21

Dr Shannon South

And then I’d like you to invite and any supporters that want to be here to help you with this issue, specifically any supporters that come to mind. And if there’s not, it’s okay. But just allowing that as an opportunity for today could be animals, people, spiritual support.

 

00;33;11;24 – 00;33;23;05

Dr Shannon South

And thanking those supporters for coming in a seen and unseen.

 

00;33;23;07 – 00;33;42;21

Dr Shannon South

And we’re going to look at the issue a little more deeply. And what kind of feelings come up for you around this issue? What are the feelings?

 

00;33;42;23 – 00;33;58;08

Dr Shannon South

And then as you notice these feelings, where do you feel them in your body. In your body? Do they live the most?

 

00;33;58;11 – 00;34;14;24

Dr Shannon South

In your gut. Your heart. Is it all over? Do you feel numb to noticing what kind of feelings arise?

 

00;34;14;26 – 00;34;41;24

Dr Shannon South

I’d like you to allow these feelings. Any of that. You. Any of them that you can have access to now to take you back to a place could be a recent event, an old memory where you had similar feelings in your body. Just ride these feelings back.

 

00;34;41;26 – 00;34;50;03

Dr Shannon South

And if there are multiple places, just choose one.

 

00;34;50;05 – 00;35;04;00

Dr Shannon South

And as you’re in this memory, noticing this memory when you had these similar feelings in your body, what do you notice about yourself? There?

 

00;35;04;02 – 00;35;12;09

Dr Shannon South

How do you feel? What’s happening?

 

00;35;12;12 – 00;35;28;21

Dr Shannon South

It is really a being with yourself in this space.

 

00;35;28;24 – 00;35;46;23

Dr Shannon South

And if there’s anything else you need to see about this memory, just allow that to open up to you. Now.

 

00;35;46;25 – 00;36;18;10

Dr Shannon South

As you notice yourself being in this space, feeling these feelings, assuming these feelings are uncomfortable in some way. Fear. The sadness, the doubt, the shame, whatever these feelings are, the numbness, the anger. Just allowing yourself to cry out. You could cry out. What do you really need? Instead of this pattern, this way of being, this experience, what do you really need?

 

00;36;18;10 – 00;36;39;14

Dr Shannon South

Instead, let yourself cry out from your heart. What is it you really need? Instead?

 

00;36;39;16 – 00;36;59;20

Dr Shannon South

If you’re feeling unsafe, maybe you need safety. If you’re scared, maybe you need love, support this noticing. What do you really need? Understanding. Connection. Peace. Maybe there’s something.

 

00;36;59;23 – 00;37;07;21

Dr Shannon South

Real joy.

 

00;37;07;24 – 00;37;20;10

Dr Shannon South

And if you’ve gotten that need, how would that have helped you and how would that help you? Now?

 

00;37;20;12 – 00;37;44;26

Dr Shannon South

And again, you may find you’re focusing on I wish this situation was different. I wish the people around me were different. Just bring your attention back to your inner need. If that was different, what would that have given you? What is that inner need? A place of power, love, support? The way.

 

00;37;44;29 – 00;38;11;06

Dr Shannon South

Beautiful. So I want you to go back to that old. Experience. The issue we began with and for you feel that in your body again. And I want you to raise that old reaction or experience where you didn’t get what you needed. I want you to raise that feeling up and out of your body. Like, imagine you could pull it up and out of your body.

 

00;38;11;06 – 00;38;31;07

Dr Shannon South

Let it take a shape or a color. What does that old way look like?

 

00;38;31;09 – 00;38;46;02

Dr Shannon South

If you’re not seeing anything, just imagining you could draw it on a piece of paper. What is that old fear or shame or whatever that issue was? What does it look like if you were to draw it on a piece of paper?

 

00;38;46;05 – 00;38;55;01

Dr Shannon South

There’s no color or texture. A shape.

 

00;38;55;04 – 00;39;22;03

Dr Shannon South

And then how did that old way help you survive? How did it help you get through that situation when you couldn’t get what you needed? Doing the best that you could? How did it help you survive? How did it protect you or help you just notice that?

 

00;39;22;06 – 00;39;35;25

Dr Shannon South

You need to honor it for what it is. And then I want you to think it what you think is for helping you survive.

 

00;39;35;28 – 00;39;42;24

Dr Shannon South

Doing the best you could. You made it.

 

00;39;42;26 – 00;40;07;09

Dr Shannon South

And ask it. Is it willing to try something new so you can have more of what you really needed now? The love, the joy, the peace, the connection, the strength of safety, whatever that is. Trust. Ask it. Is it willing to try something new?

 

00;40;07;12 – 00;40;19;29

Dr Shannon South

And it doesn’t have to be jumping up and down about it. Or it may be. It may be like lukewarm about it. All we need is that little dash of willingness that we talked about earlier.

 

00;40;20;01 – 00;40;45;03

Dr Shannon South

And then I want you to ask your highest self, your spiritual self, to bring you an image that represents this new way, what you really needed, an image, a color, a shape. What does that look and feel like? The joy, the love, the peace, the connection, whatever that was. Support. What does that new way look and feel like?

 

00;40;45;05 – 00;40;57;25

Dr Shannon South

Have your spiritual self bring that to you now.

 

00;40;57;28 – 00;41;11;03

Dr Shannon South

Beautiful. And then I want you to put the old way in your left hand, in the new way, in your right hand.

 

00;41;11;05 – 00;41;25;02

Dr Shannon South

And I want you to ask the new way. Is it willing to help you do that? You can have more of this in your life now.

 

00;41;25;04 – 00;41;43;05

Dr Shannon South

Usually says yes. And then I want you to bring the new image, color or the energy of that new way and the old way together. And I want you to let the new absorb and transform, bringing your hands together right at your heart.

 

00;41;43;07 – 00;41;51;15

Dr Shannon South

And allow the new to absorb and transform the old.

 

00;41;51;17 – 00;42;11;08

Dr Shannon South

Into something that works even better.

 

00;42;11;11 – 00;42;26;16

Dr Shannon South

And if there’s any resistance that may have it may have already done it. But if there’s any resistance. Just asking for help from your supporters and your highest self to help you.

 

00;42;26;18 – 00;42;42;05

Dr Shannon South

You can also ask the old way, what are you afraid of? If you were to really let go and let this new way run the show? What? Are you afraid? What happened?

 

00;42;42;08 – 00;42;47;21

Dr Shannon South

And then honor that fear.

 

00;42;47;23 – 00;43;20;21

Dr Shannon South

And then put the two back together again. Bring your hands together and absorb and transform it to something that works even better. And then just noticing this new way that’s evolving. What do you see? What’s the symbol like now? That you feel in your body? You are becoming something new.

 

00;43;20;23 – 00;43;32;22

Dr Shannon South

Now I want you to breathe in this new way. I want you to breathe it in the love, the joy, the peace, the connection and the support, the safety, whatever that is. Breathing it into your body.

 

00;43;32;25 – 00;43;56;05

Dr Shannon South

With that old. In with the new. Now with the old. And with the new. And out with the old. Beautiful.

 

00;43;56;08 – 00;44;20;19

Dr Shannon South

For this new way. Has some advice for you regarding the issue. We started with that original issue. What is the new way? I want you to know about that issue. What advice doesn’t want you to hear?

 

00;44;20;22 – 00;44;36;00

Dr Shannon South

Notice that. Now take notes if you want. We’ll do that in a minute. That is really soaking in that advice.

 

00;44;36;03 – 00;44;56;13

Dr Shannon South

Then I want you to take this new way back to your peaceful place, where we started giving it a place of order, thanking it for being there for you. And we’re going to give this new way some homework. How do you want it to help you this week? So you know this is in charge instead of the old way.

 

00;44;56;15 – 00;45;05;03

Dr Shannon South

How do you want it to help you?

 

00;45;05;05 – 00;45;17;24

Dr Shannon South

It can show you its strength. It’s going to help you better how you want it to help you. The basket.

 

00;45;17;26 – 00;45;58;19

Dr Shannon South

Thank you for being there for you and any supporters that came. I want you to touch base with them now. We don’t want to be rude and leave them hanging. Let’s ask them if they have anything to say to you or you to them, thanking them for coming. About this specific issue, what do they want you to know?

 

00;45;58;21 – 00;46;14;05

Dr Shannon South

Then bringing your younger self, your current self, your highest nature, all your supporters and your spiritual nature into this peaceful place.

 

00;46;14;07 – 00;46;49;18

Dr Shannon South

Breathing in this new, beautiful way. Notice how your body feels. This new symbol, this new energy, this new energy. And may all the cells of your body know you are created by this new way, this divine light. You are surround by it, you are protected by it, and you are growing into it every day. I want you to thank yourself again for being willing to dive deep and go into this journey, thanking your spiritual nature for helping you always.

 

00;46;49;21 – 00;47;02;04

Dr Shannon South

And as you feel ready, gently and slowly taking your time, coming back to the call.

 

00;47;02;07 – 00;47;13;08

Lauren Brollier Newton

So beautiful. My guess is if the audience is anything like me, there’s so much to capture. What spirit gave us during beautiful.

 

00;47;13;10 – 00;47;23;26

Dr Shannon South

What? Take a moment to do that. Have a moment to write it down and be with your knowing. That inner knowing is a big deal. We have the mind, we have the fear, and we have the knowing.

 

00;47;23;28 – 00;47;27;18

Lauren Brollier Newton

Yes.

 

00;47;27;21 – 00;47;39;21

Dr Shannon South

Beautiful view with a knowing. And you don’t have to do anything with it. Just be with it because it’s already you set it in motion. You ask it to help you and you’re done. Congratulations.

 

00;47;39;23 – 00;47;59;04

Lauren Brollier Newton

I love this idea that you started us with with cultivating, knowing that we we had this experience. We got the perfect and right wisdom from our higher self. And now we just let it keep expanding and keep cultivating the gift of that.

 

00;47;59;07 – 00;48;10;27

Dr Shannon South

Absolutely. It’s like the thousand petal lotus. Yeah it does. It doesn’t stop unfolding if we give it attention. Right now if we develop a relationship with it. Beautiful.

 

00;48;10;29 – 00;48;33;18

Lauren Brollier Newton

So one thing that I think is going to be on many, many of our listeners minds right now is what is the next step that the audience can take with you, whether they want to work with you? I know you have a certification in the inner counselor process for our, coaches. So tell us what. Tell us some of the next steps that the audience can take with you.

 

00;48;33;20 – 00;49;00;22

Dr Shannon South

Yes. Well, I am doing another 12 week certification program in January, and that will be starting at the end of January. So if you are interested in that, I have an application process. They can go to inner counselor.com and apply there to be one of the 30 people. It’s a small group, and the reason we keep it small is because I have all the people that I’ve trained there to help you learn and to track you.

 

00;49;00;25 – 00;49;19;03

Dr Shannon South

It’s super important that we get to track your healing so that you can be the person to share this, that has the perspectives and the understanding needed to do it right than the skill. So we have a small group and it’s wonderful and we have a great time. We have a lot of fun and it’s a win win.

 

00;49;19;03 – 00;49;36;15

Dr Shannon South

You get to do your own healing work and you get to help your clients more, and it’s just a fabulous, fabulous program. I’ve really enjoyed teaching it over the years. So that comes up in January and I usually have it twice a year, but this year is going to be specifically special. It feels like a this is like a new turning right now.

 

00;49;36;15 – 00;50;01;19

Dr Shannon South

What we’re all going through collectively, you know, it just feels like a really, really cool time. So, anyway, they’re welcome to look at that. And then I have an e-book that explains a little more about this, called The Power of Your Inner Counselor. The Three Biggest Blocks to Lasting Transformation and Healing. And we go into that, and I give you some really deeper understanding of what you just went through.

 

00;50;01;22 – 00;50;20;01

Dr Shannon South

And the inner counselor process and, kind of the levels of consciousness you’re working with and the qualities that you can embody in this work, it’s really cool. I would highly recommend people reading that because I think it’s a super short, easy, helpful way to understand what we’re doing here. Do you have.

 

00;50;20;04 – 00;50;21;24

Lauren Brollier Newton

A place they can find that?

 

00;50;21;26 – 00;50;25;26

Dr Shannon South

Yes. It’s also on the inner counselor.com as well.

 

00;50;25;28 – 00;50;38;02

Lauren Brollier Newton

Beautiful love that. Okay, so now I get to ask you the question that I ask every guest on this on this podcast. And great, because we haven’t gotten into any of this piece yet. So feel free to as much as you’d love to expand.

 

00;50;38;02 – 00;50;39;10

Dr Shannon South

On this tour.

 

00;50;39;13 – 00;50;59;17

Lauren Brollier Newton

So I always ask each guest that comes on this show, if you were starting a business from the ground up, a coaching business, a spiritual coaching business, an inner counselor business, if you were starting a coaching business from the ground up from scratch, meaning you couldn’t take your current email list or your website or anything, you get just starting fresh, you can take your awareness.

 

00;50;59;20 – 00;51;00;06

Dr Shannon South

Yes, but.

 

00;51;00;06 – 00;51;01;21

Lauren Brollier Newton

You’re not allowed to take any assets.

 

00;51;01;21 – 00;51;05;20

Dr Shannon South

With you. Oh how how fun. What a fun question. Yeah, what would be your.

 

00;51;05;20 – 00;51;09;05

Lauren Brollier Newton

First move if you were starting a brand new coaching business?

 

00;51;09;08 – 00;51;27;15

Dr Shannon South

Well, I’ve done this. Oh, this is fun. But you know, my answer probably has evolved since I did start. What I literally did when I started my practice was I sat down and wrote what I really needed that question, what do you really need and what do you what would you love? Right. Because I wanted to stay home with my daughter more.

 

00;51;27;15 – 00;51;46;12

Dr Shannon South

She was young and so I wrote down, I need this number of clients and this is a duh, and I’m willing to see it, you know, however this looks and I just started I just started really getting a really clear. And then I said yes a lot. I said yes a lot to opportunities. Went out and hustled, kind of like we were talking about that determination.

 

00;51;46;12 – 00;52;09;05

Dr Shannon South

Right. And I hustled in a way that came from inspiration, but also just started sharing stuff, you know, just talking to people. And then, you know, it didn’t it wasn’t exactly what I wanted at the beginning. And there were different contract positions I had that ended up funneling into the practice. But then the practice grew and it was I’ve never had to look for a client again.

 

00;52;09;08 – 00;52;29;12

Dr Shannon South

So that was beautiful. That and then it turned into a training business. Right. So then now that’s that’s how that all shifted. So yes, as a coach, get clear on what you really need and what would make your heart sing and then start talking, doing it and be in a position of trained and being being the person trained to do it right.

 

00;52;29;12 – 00;52;44;15

Dr Shannon South

And so that you can honor that you do you and you be excited about it, and you keep showing up and you just keep honoring it and it will come together. There is no doubt in my mind it will come together.

 

00;52;44;17 – 00;52;56;28

Lauren Brollier Newton

Yes. So beautiful doctor Shannon self, what a blessing, what a joy, what a gift you can give this audience and we hope we come back and talk more with us. In a future episode as well. We’d love to have you back.

 

00;52;56;29 – 00;53;13;00

Dr Shannon South

Oh my gosh, Lauren, I want to share one quote that goes with this real quick because it makes me think of what the question you asked, and also helps me summarize what we’ve done here, because this work helps us be in the present moment more. And that’s where the power lies. Yeah, because we’re in the past or the future.

 

00;53;13;00 – 00;53;38;26

Dr Shannon South

We just drain ourselves, we splatter and we drain. So as we update our system to the present, Rumi said it well, right every moment, if it’s genuinely inside of you, brings you what you need. So our align right with our highest nature, that genuine ness of it, the days we’re struggling and how we’re working to, come above and beyond those struggles and the genuineness of who we are, brings us what we need.

 

00;53;38;28 – 00;53;43;10

Dr Shannon South

And we will. It happens. Let’s have crazy faith because it works.

 

00;53;43;12 – 00;53;54;02

Lauren Brollier Newton

Yeah, I love that. Oh my God, don’t forget to go to inner counselor.com and get all the goodies. All right everyone, we’ll see you on the next episode.

 

00;53;54;04 – 00;54;25;10

Lauren Brollier Newton

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00;54;25;11 – 00;54;32;27

Lauren Brollier Newton

Meant to Be a Life Coach quiz available at bty.com/coach quiz. I’ll see you in the next episode.